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THE INTERNET IS IMPLODING AS WE SPEAK

Seriously though, this is beautiful. This game has such lush, fluidly animated spritework and amazingly bright and saturated colors that make me just shake with excitement! And the 2D gameplay looks pretty solid from what was shown. I am legitimately excited and hopeful for this, which I haven't been able to say about a sonic game for a long while.

It's being led by Christian Whitehead, who if you don't know is a well known and amazing Sonic fangame maker in the sonic fangame community, who has also made the best ports of the Classic Sonic games out there.

Thoughts?
This gives me reason to value the Sonic franchise again.

Edit: That Chrono Trigger choir sample at the end, though.
Looks like Sonic is getting back to his roots



No bandages, no slower paced movement NO TALKING ABOUT BOUNCE PADS EVERY GODANG MINUTE. Just Sonic doing what he does best
Dat sprite animation though.
This, along with the announcement of Project Sonic 2017 for 3D fans, are really exciting. I'll definitely look into both of these titles.





I for one, am actually kind of glad people are willing to give this series a second chance with these games. A promising 2D action game that reminds us of what we love about the series in the first place, and the new mystery title featuring both classic sonic and modern sonic teaming up in a post-apocalyptic future to stop the Eggmen from doing any more damage to the timeline (though many speculate a Sonic Generations 2, but I'm STILL not sure).

After the mess that was Sonic Boom, this looks actually pretty promising! A side dish is always nice to go with the main course, and instead of a lousy port this time, we get something completely new! With Fire and Ice coming out later this year however, I need to keep the hype train to a minimum, lest I be let down...
So I did some research, and Headcannon, one of the developers of this game, is led by Stealth, one of the main guys behind Sonic Megamix.

This game is looking better and better.

Also, that drop dash looks pretty cool. It kind of adds this planning element of charging up speed so you can rush through sections. It'll be fun to see that in speed runs.

EDIT:

Have some music.



It's a fan game, basically. Lake Fepard said that it feels like he's already played it before. Correction, he's already MADE it before.





[url]https://sites.google.com/site/sonicbtsbooth/[url/]

He also made Sonic Chrono Adventure afterwards, which can be downloaded here.

Both of these are highly recommended, and will prepare you for Sonic Mania. It's interesting to note that this would be Whitehead's first finished game, as Retro and Retro Nexus were both never completed due to his work on the 2011 Sonic CD. I am kind of laughing a bit, because there's not even any polish to this. If you've played ten and twenty Sonic fan games before (it even reminds me of the Sonic Worlds Engine) this kind of doesn't look very professional. At all. Will I play it? Heck yeah. But I don't think it'll save the blue blur just yet.

Kind of seems like a last ditch effort.
How the hell does Sonic Mania not look polished?
I took a look at it again. I don't know, it just would look a bit better in that HD style, I guess. I think that's what a lot of fans and game reviewers will say as well. But there's also Project Sonic, which I know nothing about. As long as Sega is still appealing to 2D game fans, that's fine with me. But Mania just looks like something I've already played through. Seriously, play those games I recommended. Chrono Adventure is actually a Metroidvania style Sonic game, you have to go back and forth through different zones and get powers and such.
Personal preference for visual style is not inherently indicative of polish or lack thereof.

Saying it lacks it is also incredibly unfounded due to the very smooth execution of the original Genesis games' style and a seeming lack of any glaring issues, and is a display of ignorance as to the term.
There you go again. Whatever, it's unimportant. I'm still playing the damn thing, as long as it's 2D.
Edit: I posted this before I saw your last post, FallenAlchemist. Sorry. Anyway, I'm not trying to create a lynch mob against you, I'm just throwing my hat in the ring and giving my thoughts (including those on your thoughts) on Sonic Mania. That's all. If you don't feel like reading this, feel free to move along.

(23-07-2016 10:09 PM)TheFallenAlchemist Wrote: [ -> ]I took a look at it again. I don't know, it just would look a bit better in that HD style, I guess. I think that's what a lot of fans and game reviewers will say as well. But there's also Project Sonic, which I know nothing about. As long as Sega is still appealing to 2D game fans, that's fine with me. But Mania just looks like something I've already played through. Seriously, play those games I recommended. Chrono Adventure is actually a Metroidvania style Sonic game, you have to go back and forth through different zones and get powers and such.

First of all, I absolutely agree with Lamda's last post. Second, I'll say that personally I do enjoy the art style - and though it hearkens back to the Genesis days - frankly, it reminded me (visually) of games like After the Sequel/Chrono Adventure to begin with. I don't know for sure if you could realistically recreate these graphics on the Genesis (though I highly doubt that) - however, this games just seems so brilliant to me. It retains the classic game play (with some minor tweaks) and the graphics fit this type of game (modern-throwback title). Most of all, this game makes me fell like Sega is finally listening to their fans, which is amazing. The project is almost completely in the hands of fans - and the graphics remind me of more recent Sonic fan games, which is part of the reason why I like them. It just makes sense to use a more modern graphical style than the genesis era, while also taking inspiration from some of the recent fan games. Also, as nice as After the Sequel and Chrono Adventure look, they absolutely do not look as polished as this game (which makes sense, because Sega has the resources to make better and more consistently polished graphics). And that's fine - I'm not picking on the fan games - but, if you think this game has less polish than those games, then I really just don't know what else to say.

Regardless of how the graphics make you feel, they have no impact on the game play - and, the game looks fun, so there's no reason to worry. Ultimately, FallenAlchemist, you said yourself that you will most likely be purchasing Sonic Mania - so, why would you purchase a game that you felt was unpolished? At least, if it mattered in any real capacity, so much so that you felt the need to complain? In any fashion, I'm not attacking you - and you can think whatever you like. But, I think Mania looks fantastic. And, I'm willing to bet my money that Sonic Mania is going to be at least as good - if not better - than all of the recent Sonic fan games (in graphics AND game play). Even if you don't agree, this game is made by fans anyway, so it doesn't matter - as long as Mania is good and fun. P.S. I also think that this could be one of my favorite Sonic games ever and maybe one of the best in general. Also, does anybody else think the music is pure gold? Studiopolis, anyone? (Also, it's done by Tee Lopes, so *BOOM!* - added layer of awesome)

In conclusion, all I can really say is that I am excited. When I first heard that we might be getting a 2D Sonic game next year, I was intrigued - and now I'm in love. By the way, does anybody else have the impulse to say "Mega Man Mania" instead of "Sonic Mania", every time you try to say "Sonic Mania"? Just curious.
As lovely as the game looks, it feels a bit SFxMM-ish. Unless I'm missing something, it seems like Mr. Whitehead's pretty much the driving force behind the game as opposed to SEGA really doing much about it. Won't stop me from playing it and (hopefully) enjoying it though, but that feels a bit skeevy.
I'm not really a Sonic fan so when people on Twitter started yelling like crazy while I was watching nerdy videos I was kinda annoyed.

Regardless, I saw the trailer and I can say that if SEGA wants to, they CAN make a good Sonic game. The game looks like it is a Shovel Knight-esque reboot of Genesis games, and I love that. I'm excited for this and I think it is promising. I'll probably get it when it releases. Whether the next game is a Sonic Boom or Sonic 2 is all up to SEGA.
I really like the sprite work on this! This is the evoultion of genesis sonic's sprites in the modern day(More colors, smoother animation etc.). The music.....sweet jesus that's awesome. I know that this feels "Fangame-y", but Whitehead has worked on OFFICAL sonic ports n stuff, as well as having stealth's crew(who made the fantasic Sonic MegaMix Hack BTW.) makes me have high hopes for this game. I just hope this does well so this can become a sub-series.

(23-07-2016 09:49 PM)TheFallenAlchemist Wrote: [ -> ]It's a fan game, basically. Lake Fepard said that it feels like he's already played it before. Correction, he's already MADE it before.





[url]https://sites.google.com/site/sonicbtsbooth/[url/]

He also made Sonic Chrono Adventure afterwards, which can be downloaded here.

Both of these are highly recommended, and will prepare you for Sonic Mania. It's interesting to note that this would be Whitehead's first finished game, as Retro and Retro Nexus were both never completed due to his work on the 2011 Sonic CD. I am kind of laughing a bit, because there's not even any polish to this. If you've played ten and twenty Sonic fan games before (it even reminds me of the Sonic Worlds Engine) this kind of doesn't look very professional. At all. Will I play it? Heck yeah. But I don't think it'll save the blue blur just yet.

Kind of seems like a last ditch effort.

IDK, this looks rather well made.While I like BTS, ATS, and Chrono Adventure, this feels like the "Sonic 4" type game I wanted. Not that those games are awful, Infact far from it!(Maybe Lake Fepard can team up with them for Mania 2) I just like the look of this game more. Also it's on PS4, so I can get a game on that system.

At least it's in good hands. Unlike Sonic 4 E1.
I absolutely agree with Thojoewhit. This is the game I never knew I wanted: A game made for fans, by fans, and inspired by fans. The art style reminds me of a couple of fan games, including those previously mentioned, as well as Sonic: Time Twisted! This is wonderful, because the graphics are evolved for modern day, while also taking inspiration from fan projects. Also, the game play looks better than ever! Levels are even more complex and huge, with multiple paths to take. And these points sum up why I love Sonic Mania: It is an evolution of the genesis games and takes influence from the previous ones, while making large, expansive - yet still fun - levels. Most people think Sonic CD was too big and confusing - it was also kind of too vertical oriented. So, the genesis games stayed pretty horizontal, with some higher paths. But now, the levels can be REALLY big, but still cohesive and well-designed, with a lot more gimmicks. Studiopolis packs in so much, but you're never lost. I think Sonic Mania has found the sweet spot - you can travel up vertically - but there is always a horizontal track waiting above you - as well as a few touches of vertical platforming. Mania is the game that Sonic CD couldn't be - though Mania also takes some of its best aspects from the other games - which makes its level design truly feel like an evolution of the Genesis games. Mania looks bigger - and just as, if not more exciting than S3&K. It feels like the true sequel that we have been waiting for. The music also reminds me of a Sonic CD/Adventure mesh, which is wonderful - and the visuals combine CD, Knuckle's Chaotix, and some fan projects into a gorgeous art style that really works to the game's advantage. The game screams effort and love - and it means Sega is finally listening to the fans. My only hope is that Capcom does the same soon.
I made some NES-Style covers of Title and Invincibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NL50_W_mgU


Welp, this just raised a million eyebrows
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